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title: RCM ReFramed Podcast | Alex Oey
description: Welcome to RCM ReFramed, the podcast dedicated to reshaping traditional views and approaches to Revenue Cycle Management (RCM) through innovative frameworks and strategic insights. Join us for the latest innovations, expert interviews, and discussions that will help enhance your RCM processes and shape the future of healthcare finance.
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# RCM Reframed

Candid conversations with revenue cycle leaders across the country — leadership, denials, AI, and what's next in RCM.

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## [The Self-Pay Inversion: Why Your Insured Patients Are Now Your Hardest Collections](https://insights.getixhealth.com/podcast/the-self-pay-inversion-why-your-insured-patients-are-now-your-hardest-collections)

September 16, 2026

In this enlightening episode of RCM Reframed, Chris Spady, Senior Vice President of Revenue Cycle at Erlanger Health, joins host Shawn Gretz, President, Sales and Marketing for GetixHealth, …

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[▶ Featured Why Patient Financial Services Is Your Best Early-Warning System September 2, 2026](https://insights.getixhealth.com/podcast/why-patient-financial-services-is-your-best-early-warning-system) [▶ Healthcare Design for the Loops ,Not the Line: Rebuilding Revenue Cycle After a Leadership Vacuum July 30, 2026](https://insights.getixhealth.com/podcast/design-for-the-loops-not-the-line) [▶ Insurance Resolution Why Your Highest- ROI Denial Fix Might Be Standing in the OR July 23, 2026](https://insights.getixhealth.com/podcast/why-your-highest-roi-denial-fix-might-be-standing-in-the-or-1) [▶ Healthcare When Financial Counseling Becomes Case Management July 13, 2026](https://insights.getixhealth.com/podcast/when-financial-counseling-becomes-case-management) [▶ Healthcare The RCM to CEO Path July 6, 2026](https://insights.getixhealth.com/podcast/the-rcm-to-ceo-path) [▶ Healthcare Turning Coding Needs into Coding Success with AI June 26, 2026](https://insights.getixhealth.com/podcast/turning-coding-needs-into-coding-success-with-ai) [▶ Healthcare Beyond Bots: What Rev Cycle Leaders Need to Rethink About AI May 29, 2026](https://insights.getixhealth.com/podcast/beyond-bots) [▶ Eligibility & Enrollment Medicaid Policy Shifts and What They Mean August 21, 2026](https://insights.getixhealth.com/podcast/medicaid-policy-shifts-and-what-they-mean) [▶ Healthcare Building Payer Relationships, Aligning Teams, and Preparing for Cybersecurity Threats August 17, 2026](https://insights.getixhealth.com/podcast/building-payer-relationships) [▶ Healthcare Leading Through Change : Insights from VP of Revenue Cycle at UC San Diego Health November 11, 2024](https://insights.getixhealth.com/podcast/leading-through-change) [▶ Healthcare Compliance in New Financial Assistance Laws August 17, 2026](https://insights.getixhealth.com/podcast/new-financial-assistance-laws) [▶ Healthcare Insights from a Revenue Cycle VP: Establishing Operations at a New Organization August 17, 2026](https://insights.getixhealth.com/podcast/revenue-cycle-insights) [▶ Healthcare Charting the Future: Insights from Chief Information Officers in Healthcare August 21, 2026](https://insights.getixhealth.com/podcast/insights-from-cio)

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## Meet your hosts

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